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Why is Maven a top level project?

I saw Maven described as being part of the "usual infrastructure" on the Geronimo site. I've investigated Maven as a depdendency manager for work and it's still a ways from what I'd call infrastructure. That may change, Maven is highly active.

I'm not saying it shouldn't be a top level project, just curious why it is, or perhaps why it's not in Jakarta. Given that it's far from baked in my humble opinion, depends on non-top level stuff like Jelly and about all you can do with it is manage Java project dependencies. What's the ASF community's rationale for this?

August 8, 2003 10:24 AM


(August 8, 2003 01:08 PM #)

I guess its because James Strachan in an active participant in Geronimo and Maven.

Anyway, can you be a bit more specific about your complaints on Jelly?


Bill de hra
(August 8, 2003 01:24 PM #)

I'm pretty sure it doesn't come down to one person Carlos :) As for Jelly, it's not a complaint (not here anyway, that's for another day). I'm just trying to understand how Maven moves to a top level when stuff like Tomcat stays part of Jakarta. Ant I nearly understand since it is infrastructure, even if it is java-centric. Maybe I don't understand how the ASF works.

(August 8, 2003 01:26 PM #)

The ASF would like to see Jakarta go away, never again create a language-centric project and all projects become more or less TLPs. Projects in Jakarta can generally ask to become TLPs when they feel they are ready. I personally understand the reasoning for this, but I'm not sure I agree. I fought pretty hard to make it voluntary when this decision was made. -Andy

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